Does anyone know what is being built on the Apex corner roundabout, next to Sainsbury St Clare's? I've heard rumours of Harvester, Beefeater, Weatherspoons?

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Found the planning application lodged with Hounslow here: http://planning.hounslow.gov.uk/Planning_CaseNo.aspx?strCASENO=P/20... 

The documents state that the restaurants will be a Harvester and a Toby Carvery.

I note with concern that they propose to access the site by building another exit off the Apex Corner roundabout! This roundabout is already a complete nightmare to negotiate on two wheels, let alone four (I have a friend who has been knocked off her bike there, and have witnessed many "shunts" between motor vehicles). Madness to create another stream of traffic entering/exiting the roundabout.

I live close to the proposed site and it concerns me that there will be lots of drunk people leaving the pub at 12 midnight and causing vandalism and being sick near to my house.

Dose anybody know if a new development like this can effect house prices in the local area.

Has there been any form of petition or protest, I am not very happy about a new pub appearing near where me and my two young children live.

I looked at the plans, which seem to have been granted, particularly given that work on the site has started. 

However, to allay your fears, Harvester/Toby style premises do not have a reputation for drunk people being sick. They are generally family food venues, more than traditional boozers. Pubs whose customers cause a persistent nuisance do not last long. The licensing laws are set up to ensure they do not allow people to get into this state ( not that anyone can afford to drink enough at pub prices to get into this state anyway....!)

I am sure Christmas might increase the noise levels a bit if they market the party events, but I expect most people will be driving away from their large car park. I don't think neighbours of the Fountain Beefeater have been unduly disturbed....they may have something to say...I also don't think house prices would be affected any more than being near a McDonald's does on the opposite corner.

I expect my business will be affected. Ah well. 

  

Before McDonald's arrived, there used to be a parge pub called "The Hope and Anchor"

Does anyone remember if this caused a problem?

I certainly don't recall causing needless vandilism and getting sick everywhere after visiting it - though, could be mistaken

Sarah Burley said:

I looked at the plans, which seem to have been granted, particularly given that work on the site has started. 

However, to allay your fears, Harvester/Toby style premises do not have a reputation for drunk people being sick. They are generally family food venues, more than traditional boozers. Pubs whose customers cause a persistent nuisance do not last long. The licensing laws are set up to ensure they do not allow people to get into this state ( not that anyone can afford to drink enough at pub prices to get into this state anyway....!)

I am sure Christmas might increase the noise levels a bit if they market the party events, but I expect most people will be driving away from their large car park. I don't think neighbours of the Fountain Beefeater have been unduly disturbed....they may have something to say...I also don't think house prices would be affected any more than being near a McDonald's does on the opposite corner.

I expect my business will be affected. Ah well. 

  

I was also a bit concerned about a typical Harvester (i.e. a sizeable pub) appearing on this site, but to be fair, looking at the plans (see "Planning Statement" and "Proposed Plans" at the link above) that doesn't seem to be the case. The planning statement (Para 3.4) states that "The Harvester family restaurant will include a small bar waiting area", not a full-blown pub. This is borne out by the proposed plans which show the same - the Carvery restaurant has no bar facility at all.

I remain more concerned about the access plans, another entrance/exit directly off that roundabout seems ill-advised. A more sensible alternative would seem to extend the existing road that gives access to the flats (labelled as Hampton Road E on Google Maps)  - this is no doubt going to be the building site access anyway.

This site used to called the Hope & Anchor roundabout after the pub which Roger mentions, but was renamed Apex Corner after the office block which has now been replaced by Currys/Wickes (apologies for being old enough to remember all this!).  However, the pub occupied the space which is now MacDonalds, so the entrance issue is different.  There has, to my knowledge, never been a building on the site of the proposed Harvester, so it remains to be seen what effect this would have on traffic, though I tend to agree with Clive's solution.  However, the fact that it might include a pub seems not to be an issue if there was one nearby previously, albeit some years ago.

hi as there are not any recent comments about this development does anyone know if it is going ahead? as it is an eyesore.

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