Thought you might be interested in the attached communication with Danny Glitherow at LB Richmond Highways re Oak Avenue (and a little plug from me for Buckingham Road). Seems to clear up a few matters which I didn't quite understand.
Let me know if the attachment is not visible and I'll find another way of attaching it.

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Trevor - I am intrigued, but having problems with the eml file. can you post it in an easier to get at format?
Paul

Perhaps this text file attachment will be more successful.
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From: "Danny Glitherow"
To: "Trevor Allan" <>
Subject: RE: Oak Avenue, Hampton
Date: 27 October 2009 09:24

Dear Mr Allan,



I have mentioned this to the Highways maintenance team but they informed
me that their funding is limited and thus must prioritise roads in
disrepair. With this in mind they are unsure when they will be able to
fund the resurfacing of Buckingham Road. However if the opportunity
arrives to obtain additional funding Buckingham Road will be kept in
mind.



Regards,



Danny Glitherow

Engineer

Transport Planning Service

London Borough of Richmond upon Thames

Tel: 020 8891 7822

d.glitherow@richmond.gov.uk

www.richmond.gov.uk



________________________________

From: Trevor Allan [mailto:tjandspallan@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 26 October 2009 17:02
To: Danny Glitherow
Subject: Re: Oak Avenue, Hampton



Danny



Thanks for the prompt reply and I now understand the situation much
better. The Fearnley Crescent junction issue might, in that case, be
resolved by a table at the actual junction (though that would mean
having to remove the humps). If you put someone there for about 20
mins, I'm sure they would appreciate the problem.



Pity about Buckingham Road - perhaps the Highways team could put it on
their list?



Regards



Trevor Allan

----- Original Message -----

From: Danny Glitherow

To: Trevor Allan

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:35 AM

Subject: RE: Oak Avenue, Hampton



Dear Mr Allan,



Thank you for your email regarding Oak Avenue Hampton.



The works on Oak Avenue have been installed in an effort to
reduce vehicle speeds and make the road a 20mph zone. I appreciate that
the majority of vehicles will find the most comfortable speed to travel
at is 20mph, however there are those that will still chose to travel at
30mph and over as they believe that to be the speed limit. The
installation of 20mph zone signs have two purposes, their primary use is
to inform road users of the lower speeds limit, but they also remove the
necessity to sign individual roads within the zone as having traffic
calming. With out 20mph zone signs there would be a legal requirement to
install "humps" signs on every road within the zone, and if the zone
were to expand more signage would be required rather than just
relocating the existing 20mph signage.



Speed cushions were chosen for the located near Fernley Crescent
due to the proximity of the raised crossing and the driveways located
near the junction. The scheme is to be monitored over the next six
months, at which point if it is felt that the cushions at near Fernley
Crescent are a safety issue, we will investigate replacing them with a
table.



I have spoken to the Highways maintenance team, and Buckingham
Road is not on their current resurfacing programme. However we will
keep Buckingham Road in mind when investigating further improvements for
the area.



Regards,



Danny Glitherow

Engineer

Transport Planning Service

London Borough of Richmond upon Thames

Tel: 020 8891 7822

d.glitherow@richmond.gov.uk

www.richmond.gov.uk






________________________________


From: Trevor Allan [mailto:]
Sent: 23 October 2009 15:41
To: Highways And Transport
Subject: Oak Avenue, Hampton

Dear Sirs



1. I understand that there is to be a 20mph speed limit on
Oak Avenue. I had assumed that the recent placement of tables and
cushions in the road were to achieve this objective and my own
experience suggests that 20mph is now the most comfortable speed at
which to drive on this road. I cannot therefore see the need to spend
additional resource on introducing 20mph signs.
2. The cushions adjacent to the south end of Fearnley
Crescent cause motorists to deviate wildly from a straight path when
turning right from Oak Avenue into Fearnley Crescent. Could the
cushions be replaced by a speed table across the whole width of the road
as in other locations?
3. When utility work had been completed on a number of side
roads in Hampton last year, they were resurfaced, resulting in much
smoother road humps. This is both safer and more environmentally
friendly than the previous fierce humps which caused traffic to slow
down significantly before them and speed up inbetween. This uses
excessive fuel, whereas smooth humps can be traversed at a reasonable
20mph. However, the completion of this work in Buckingham Road did not
result in resurfacing. There are a number of poorly constructed humps
in this road which would benefit from resurfacing; could the Council
please consider this?

Trevor Allan



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More info on this and another unrelated road matter:

Danny

I wonder how your monitoring of the traffic calming measures in Oak Avenue is coming along as I am becoming increasingly concerned at the potential problem I identified earlier with the cushions close to the Fearnley Cres junction. The other day, I was followed by a motorcyclist who was obviously driving between cushions, rather than over them as I would in my car. As we approached Fearnley Cres, I signalled right but had to pull over to the left cushion because of oncoming traffic, rather than use the middle cushion before turning right. I then had to pull right to get back to a central position to turn right. Fortunately, the motorcyclist realised what I was doing, and there was no incident, but the position of the cushions does force drivers to move left and then immediately right to turn into Fearnley. I have looked again at the position of the cushions relative to the adjacent driveways, and I think it is possible to install a full table, albeit at a slightly reduced length.

Whilst writing, I was hoping you could look into another matter which seems to have been going on for some time. The traffic lights at the junction of Upper and Lower Sunbury Roads often stop traffic on the A308, even when there is no traffic waiting to emerge from the Lower road. It seems that the detector on the lights on the Lower road is not working properly and is causing unnecessary hold ups to traffic on the main road, not to mention the additional fuel consumption and pollution. Would it be possible to have this checked out and rectified?

Many thanks and a very Happy New Year.
Reply from LB Richmond:

Dear Mr Allan,



The monitoring on Oak Avenue is still in its early stages as the majority of the data we use for this is gathered towards the end of the six month period. Speed and volume surveys will be undertaken at the beginning of March, along with a camera sited at the junction of Fernley Crescent to record any conflict that may occur at this site. The problem with installing a raised table on a bus route is that it must conform to the standards provided by London Buses, these require a 9 metre plateau with 1:20 ramps, this makes the total length of a table 11 metres.



All traffic signals are installed and maintain by Transport for London. I have forwarded on your points about the junction of Upper/Lower Sunbury Road to their signal engineers for further investigation. If I hear anything back from them I will be sure to let you know.



Regards,



Danny Glitherow

Engineer

Transport Planning Service

London Borough of Richmond upon Thames



Trevor James Allan said:
More info on this and another unrelated road matter:

Danny

I wonder how your monitoring of the traffic calming measures in Oak Avenue is coming along as I am becoming increasingly concerned at the potential problem I identified earlier with the cushions close to the Fearnley Cres junction. The other day, I was followed by a motorcyclist who was obviously driving between cushions, rather than over them as I would in my car. As we approached Fearnley Cres, I signalled right but had to pull over to the left cushion because of oncoming traffic, rather than use the middle cushion before turning right. I then had to pull right to get back to a central position to turn right. Fortunately, the motorcyclist realised what I was doing, and there was no incident, but the position of the cushions does force drivers to move left and then immediately right to turn into Fearnley. I have looked again at the position of the cushions relative to the adjacent driveways, and I think it is possible to install a full table, albeit at a slightly reduced length.

Whilst writing, I was hoping you could look into another matter which seems to have been going on for some time. The traffic lights at the junction of Upper and Lower Sunbury Roads often stop traffic on the A308, even when there is no traffic waiting to emerge from the Lower road. It seems that the detector on the lights on the Lower road is not working properly and is causing unnecessary hold ups to traffic on the main road, not to mention the additional fuel consumption and pollution. Would it be possible to have this checked out and rectified?

Many thanks and a very Happy New Year.

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