I went to look at the presentation Monday 7th December.  What are your thoughts?

They plan to squeeze 30 homes various sizes onto the site of the old Police Traffic office and car park / garage with just 35 parking spaces, some under a central pond.  Legal requirement is for 50% "affordable housing" but they will pay as there is none.  Most homes require parking for two cars so new residents will grab spaces in Station Road, Plevna Road, The Avenue etc, forcing us to revisit residents permits at our cost.  The site is not high enough above river level for an underground car park, the rather austere flat-roofed building they propose to build on Station Road adjacent to the existing 'Old Police Station' will block the iconic view from the High Street.

I discussed this with the architects from Reading.  They've worked with the chap on just one house conversion in Streatham before.  The developer, whom I also met, is in his early thirties, stands behind a new company created specially for this project and looks and sounds like a very aggressive estate agent.  At the presentation his main focus was on selling the houses and flats to the people there as hard as possible.  The usual hook: flatter and distract from issues.

The planning proposal doesn't seem to be on Richmond's website yet, if you find it let me know.  It will take about two years to build and requires extensive groundwork first to comply with environment laws due to former "contaminated" use (automatically assumed with all garages).

If you haven't heard of the development or seent the presentation materials I very much recommend that you stay alert and have your say when it reaches planning proposal stage.

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As I live in one of the roads that could be affected by extra  parking I didn't receive any info on a meeting. Surely this should have been sent out to all surrounding roads.  I have been looking out for any information for a long time and I haven't been able to find anything out about it at all.  There certainly isn't any point in revisiting CPZ as they would be able to get permits also, as would all the retailers in Station Road (many of which could have block ones) so you would be paying to still be unable to park.

Where did you find out about the meeting?

We didn't know and hadn't heard anything about it, nor it seems did anyone else, perhaps that was the way the developer wanted it?

Well when that goes ahead alongside the plans for the ford garage and then the waterworks to be honest residents parking will be a small price to pay. I'm concerned about general disruption and works traffic for what will be major developments in a similar time in a small area.

When we were asked about residents parking before, it was voted a no.  Why? because the area was so large it would have not made any difference.  Paying for residents parking does not guarantee a parking space.  Retailers like Dexters would get a block booking which would allow all their cars (as they do now) to park in the side roads, BUT this would include people from their other offices.  Residents parking means residents in a large area, the last one went as far as Broad Lane, towards Hampton Hill.  Honestly nothing to gain as I went into it in great detail.  All the developments that we are talking about would get them as well allowing them to park anywhere in Hampton, so why pay for something you can't get ie a parking space.  I actually approached the Council and asked if I could pay for an allocated spot outside my house, which I thought was a reasonable idea, I get a space and they get some money.  Nope not within their way of thinking - shame, as that would alter things considerably.

Alderson's garage is also proposing 9 flats and ground floor offices! They have included 8 parking spaces, 1 disabled parking space but cycle parking for the offices! The development next to this is still empty! Hampton is just becoming too crowded and losing its charm.

In addition to Janice regarding the CPZ, most is correct but not the point about Dexters etc. Business's would be eligible to buy 'business permits', these are roughly 3x the cost of resident permits, so that would be in excess of £300, and they are not permitted in resident bays.

However, business bays would  be provided, these could be business only or shared (business / resident permit holders only), so first come, first serve. 

As has already been said, any CPZ in the side streets off of Station Road would be next to useless if properties in Station Road were to be included.

I was told they could get more parking permits (yes at a cost) and they would still be able to park in our roads.  Well we will leave that one for the moment.

I thought Alderons planning had been turned down

Aldersons Garage's application was turned down in 2006, and there doesn't appear to be any application current for the site. Has anyone heard anything different?

Yes they would be able to park but...

1. Not everywhere, only at a few locations (exact number would be agreed during consultation). 

2. Parking 3 cars will amount to around £1000, that might adjust their car policy

I think its pie in the sky, I can't see one going in any-time soon. Even if there was support amongst the residents, the area will only go on a waiting list, so it could be years until consultation started and then a further consultation to implementation period of between 1 and 2 years.

How do I know this? I was an engineer at LBR designing and implementing CPZ's.

What we need is the Council to adjust their ridiculous planning policy, more specifically there parking standards that recommend 1 or is 1.5 car parking spaces per dwelling? That is a maximum, developers do not have to provide the maximum as far as i am aware.


Janice Merritt said:

I was told they could get more parking permits (yes at a cost) and they would still be able to park in our roads.  Well we will leave that one for the moment.

I thought Alderons planning had been turned down


Wrong!

There was a 2015 Application which was turned down.

There is now an appeal against that decision in process.


Matt D said:

Aldersons Garage's application was turned down in 2006, and there doesn't appear to be any application current for the site. Has anyone heard anything different?

Thanks Ian - found it: 15/2316/OUT

(Didn't appear in postcode search, but popped up in Advanced Search. Lesson learned.)

I thought the one parking per household rule by the Council had been dropped and that it is not longer a condition, I could be wrong.  Shame the council didn't have to foresight to buy some of the land and make it into a carpark, but there again we all said that about the old sorting office piece of ground which became a load of flats overlooking the green.  Oh and by the way the sorting office could be lost as well.  How much does the council feel we need new housing when there are so many standing empty?

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