Bringing People Together
Ironically the opposite is true. Our local shops would benefit more if the proposed new Waitrose was smack in the middle. This was pointed out to us at the last consultation meeting. A lady at the meeting had sourced some useful statistics which suggested that shops in very close proximity to new Waitrose stores had an uplift in trade whereas those beyond about 500 metres away saw a decline in business.
I can understand why this is the case. I believe there are some businesses that will benefit from the Waitrose on the proposed site, eg Hampton Tandoori (for example I can envisage someone ordering a takeaway while they go and do their shopping). However I think that most of our local shops are just that bit too far away from the Field House site to benefit from any potential sales uplift due being in close proximity to a Waitrose.
i agree with some of your points, hampton ceased to be a "village" long ago, when people stopped getting their living from the land that surrounded it, now we are non stop houses in any direction you go, even the county that it was in has all but gone Middlesex, there is a need for a supermarket in this area and all the people that feel they will be affected by the increase in traffic are then near enough to walk to it, instead of causing traffic in any other area but not your own, NIMBYS is what they are called. sadly the lorries have to come in from that end,as there is a low bridge the other end of Oldfield Road i live on one of the roads that end and it is blocked allmost daily by lorries that have to turn around because their sat nav took them to that end, i agree to useing a building that is empty anyway,and by the way it is not in the "village"it is on an industrial site
This access road in Oldfield Road is, in my opinion, going to be the real key to this whole issue. The last time the council looked at this it was turned down owing to the the issue of cost. That was before Thames Water offered to gift the land which, you'll appreciate, was almost certainly the main cost factor.
It was mentioned at the meeting (by John, I seem to recall) that given that Waitrose are spending over a million on the site that they may be unwilling to dig too far, if at all, into their corporate pockets to fund a new access road which is fair comment; but they may be willing to put in some funding.
What is important is that now this issue of traffic and congestion around the Oldfield Road/Percy Road/Station Road junction is becoming far more high profile and the more people who know about it, the more people we have who can come together to put pressure on the council to see that something is done about it. It could be a long fight and I'm not promising instant solutions but together we can hopefully achieve something and build upon the hardwork which the residents of Oldfield Road have been doing for some years now.
But most of the shops we are talking about are within 500 meters, even the ones at the far end of Station Road have got to be very close to that. The Cheese and Wine Company that’s pretty much bang on 500 meters away will more than hold its own against a supermarket whoever they are, and I don't really see waitrose providing direct competition to a proper florist, hairdressers, cafes, Boutique clothes shops or estate agents....
Have I got this right? You're accusing anyone who lives near the site who has 'issues' with the development as a NIMBY? Are you saying there isn't going to be an increase in traffic and general increase in day to day disruption that there currently is?
News for you James, it has nothing to do with being a NIMBY. Have you ever tried turning right out of Oldfield Road (The Green end) at any time of the day, let alone peak hours? No? I have to do this every day as I live down there, and I can tell you its tricky. Increasing the trips to this development from approx 500-1000 per day and it'll make things a dam site worse. Assuming 70% of the traffic is coming from the direction of the crossing, then thats about 700 vehicles that will have to wait and turn right into the development side of Oldfield Road, imagine trying to turn right out of the other side of Oldfield Road whilst there is a queue of cars waiting in Percy Road?
But I'm not allowed these concerns as I live right next to it. Is that right? What a joke.
Gareth, on the whole i'm for this development, my concerns are the safety at that junction due to the increase in use (i'm not concerned about the deliveries as its a small store, but more to the point theres an industrial estate at the other end anyway!).
Parking is my other concern. If staff occupy spaces within the car park then the car park may run at full capacity for periods of the day, causing customers to park in the side streets (mine for example). We are close to the limit as it is down my end of the road. If staff are not allowed to park in the car park, then they'll park in the side streets instead..........see where i'm going with this? It appears that this could put additional pressure on the immediate local residents (or NIMBYS according to James).
My last concern is again linked to highways. How will the increase in pedestrian traffic from Staion Road accross Percy Road be dealt with? Its not a safe place to cross at the moment, let alone when there is an increase in vehicular traffic AND pedestrian traffic in the same area. I know this sounds alarmist, but it really will be an accident waiting to happen.
All the best
p.s Is today the 'open' day at Field House? If so I best get myself along
p.s.s When is the closing date for objections/comments
i have been following this discusion with interest,and also afew grins.
the first point i would like to make is that any shop coming to hampton that causes that excuse of a shop in oldfield road to close is aces in my book.last year i used the shop and found about 6 items in the fridge that were
out of date,when i told them,they removed the items and thanked me,when i returned to the shop half hour latter i found that they had put the items back in the fridge for sale.
the second point i would like to make is that i cant help being amused when you people refer to hampton as a 'village' hampton ceased being a village when they built the nurserylands many years ago,and since then countless other carbuncles have sprung up all over the place causing hampton to become just another urban sprawl.
Thanks for your comments
TODAY! Today is indeed the day for Waitrose Open Day at Field House. I, along with fellow Ward Councillor Janet Langhorne and chair of the Hampton Village Traders Association and had a good hour's chat with the team there. Go along between now and 8.00pm and raise any issues which are concerning you.
CLOSING DATE: 10th June 2011 though we have assurances that any representations made will be taken into consideration
STOP PRESS! (if you feel like being theatrical then pop on the ITN music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swMDE4K3Iwc before you read this*). This application will go before the Planning Committee in July owing to the weight of representations both for and against the application.
* Even if you don't fancy being theatrical, click on the link. This jaunty music really was used to introduce the news!
Don't forget there are people living on the Nurserylands who are reading this forum...
We use the same station, library and shops as the rest of you and consider that we live in "Hampton" too... :-)
Mrs. J. Sale, Asters florist - Proprietor : Thank you all for such a wonderful debate.I have run Asters flower shop for 31 years and have 'uped' my game many times due to the changes in Hampton's shopping habits.We all must know by now that small buinesses can not compete with supermarkets on price and size and availability of stock. The only thing that can really set us apart from the corporates is customer service and our flexibility. We are looking forward to 'uping' our game again! We welcome Waitrose to Hampton and hope that they play a big roll in helping our community, as all the local traders do.
my point was not to lampoon the people who live on these estates,if anything i would lampoon the idiots who work on the planning commities who allowed these carunkles too be built in the first place,the truth is i've lived in hampton all my live(54 years)and the last 15 on one of these carbunkles thanks to that ****
thatcher and her cronies(but thats another story) so you see,the point i was trying to make was to point out to all those romantics who still refer to hampton as a village,coudn't be more wrong as hampton is a much larger place and has a lot more people living here than you would get in a proper village.
Not at all offended by your comments on the Nurserylands, having lived on the estate for 30 years. I quite like it, and I don't think it has been ruined by Sainsbury's any more than Hampton "village" would be ruined by Waitrose!